Thursday, January 21, 2010

Why is it important for supporters of Proposition 8 in California to keep same sex couples from marrying?

Or, for that matter, why is it important for ANY supporter of similar propositions in various states to keep same sex couples from marrying?





Why does marriage NEED to exclude same-sex couples? Why does it NEED to remain between opposite-sex couples?Why is it important for supporters of Proposition 8 in California to keep same sex couples from marrying?
The marriages should be void and null. They knowingly exploited a loop hole without out the people majority consent. If anything they should have waited to see what the overall response was after the Judges did what they did. Now the People have spoken! Besides, it all comes down to whether you believe in God. If you do, we all know that the core teaching of homosexuals in the bible views it as an Abomination.


I see a lot of nice, tolerant hypocrites out there trying to justify gay marriage. Where does it end? Are you trying to make the end of the world come quicker. See Sodom and Gomorrah-Bible.


On top of that it would be government imposing on freedom of religion.


Why is it important for supporters of Proposition 8 in California to keep same sex couples from marrying?
People actually gave good answers, and you chose this guy? I'm not saying I should have been picked, but c'mon, zero cool - best answers aren't to crucify assholes on a cross of humiliation- they're to reward the actual thinkers for their input... i'm slightly disappointed

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Betwix %26amp; Between I have to agree with you on this. I've got plenty of emails from people like that or even nice ones but I choose the answer to my question that I can relate to or by someone who understands my point.

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Have you heard the stats for other countries that legalized gay marriage? For example, in Denmark, after they legalized same sex marriage, they have since then also legalized INCEST! Would you like to marry your own brother or sister? If so, why not? If you cannot see anything unnatural about same sex marriage, then if you love or if you are IN LOVE with your sibling or cousin...why wouldn't you be allowed to marry them? In a certain light, there might not be anything wrong with marrying your sibling. I mean, if you love each other, why not just go for it? Same sex married couples cannot reproduce. You cannot reproduce with your family members either. But what does that matters if same sex marriage is allowed? What is the purpose of marriage? People who don't care about this proposition do no understand the real meaning behind marriage. Marriage is basically to pass on your genes to the next generation. This is the difference between friendship and romantic love You can love your best friend but you can't reproduce with them if you are the same sex. So then what is the purpose of getting married? In the same way, you can love your sibling but that doesn't mean you should marry them. An additional problem posed by legalizing same sex marriage is that the future generations..will grow up not knowing that same sex marriage is unnatural. If they don't understand that it is unnatural, the what is there to prevent wrong ideas from forming?? By passing this proposition, we are protecting the future generations and the morality of America. There is nothing to compare how blacks were discriminated less than 50 years ago and the ';discrimination'; against same sex couples. There is nothing unnatural about being a certain color. However, there is something unnatural about ';marrying'; the same sex. There is an obvious difference between these two issues. See the article below:





Legalizing Same-Sex Marriage


Will Increase Prevalence of Homosexuality:


Research Provides Significant Evidence





By Trayce Hansen, Ph.D.





An accumulation of research from around the world finds that societies which endorse homosexual behavior increase the prevalence of homosexuality in those societies. The legalization of same-sex marriage鈥攚hich is being considered by voters in several U.S. states鈥攊s the ultimate in societal endorsement and will result in more individuals living a homosexual lifestyle.





Extensive research from Sweden, Finland, Denmark, and the United States reveals that homosexuality is primarily environmentally induced. Specifically, social and/or family factors, as well as permissive environments which affirm homosexuality, play major environmental roles in the development of homosexual behavior.





A closer look at the research:


Twin study investigations of homosexuality were recently conducted in both Sweden and Finland. Such twin studies compare rates of homosexual behavior between different sibling groups who share varying degrees of genetic similarity (i.e., identical twins versus non-identical twins). By comparing such rates, twin studies help sort out the extent to which homosexual behavior is genetic and/or environmental. For instance, if homosexuality is genetic, then in cases where one identical twin is homosexual the co-twin should be homosexual nearly 100% of the time because identical twins share 100% of their genes.





But that is not what these two large-scale Scandinavian studies found. Both studies revealed that when one identical twin was homosexual the other twin was homosexual only 10% or 11% of the time. Such findings indicate that homosexuality is not genetically determined.





Instead of genetic factors, these Scandinavian studies concluded that unique environmental factors play the largest role in the development of homosexual behavior. The question as to which specific environmental factors contribute to homosexuality was not answered by these studies although some conclusions are offered by Danish and American research data to be discussed later in this article.





But first, it should be noted that although the Swedish and Finnish twin studies are among the best to date, they still have wide margins of error. In fact, the margins of error are so wide it remains entirely possible that genetic factors play no role in the development of homosexuality. That remains to be determined, but what has been resolved is that the primary factor in the development of homosexuality is environmental.





A Danish research investigation studied two million adults living in Denmark, a country where same-sex marriage has been legal since 1989. This study uncovered a number of specific environmental factors that increase the probability an individual will seek a same-sex rather than an opposite-sex partner for marriage.





For Danish men, the environmental factors associated with higher rates of homosexual marriage include an urban birthplace and an absent or unknown father. Significantly, there was a linear relationship between degree of urbanization of birthplace and whether a man chose homosexual or heterosexual marriage as an adult. In other words, the more urban a man's birthplace, the more likely he was to marry a man, while the more rural a man's birthplace, the more likely he was to marry a woman.





For Danish women, the environmental factors related to increased likelihood of homosexual marriage include an urban birthplace, maternal death during adolescence, and mother-absence.





Interestingly, this Danish research finds that urban birthplace and separation from the same-sex parent both were associated with same-sex marriage for men as well as women. (The latter finding supports psychological theories that have long asserted homosexuality is related to childhood problems鈥攔eal or perceived鈥攚ith the same-sex parent). In summary, this study finds that environmental factors that contribute to the development of homosexuality can be social and/or familial.





Finally, an American research study鈥攖he most comprehensive and representative survey of sexual behavior in America鈥攔eported its findings concerning homosexuality. The results of this study also support an environmental theory of homosexuality, not a genetic one. In particular, this survey identified specific types of environments that increase the likelihood of homosexual behavior. The authors describe these environments as ';congenial'; to the development of homosexuality.





For American men, the environmental factor most related to homosexual behavior was the degree of urbanization during the teenage years. Specifically, boys who lived in large urban centers between the ages of 14 and 16 were three to six times more likely to engage in homosexual behavior than were boys who lived in rural communities during those same ages. The authors offer the following possibility: ';an environment that provides increased opportunities for and fewer negative sanctions against same-gender sexuality may both allow and even elicit expression of same-gender interest and sexual behavior (p.308).'; Note the word ';elicit.'; These researchers believe that growing up in a more pro-homosexual region may evoke or draw out homosexual behavior in young men. The implication is that some homosexual men who were reared in urban centers would not have become homosexual if reared in non-urban centers. The authors explain, ';the environment in which people grow up affects their sexuality in very basic ways (p.309).';





For American women, the environmental factor most associated with a homosexual or bisexual identity was a higher level of education. And though that was also true for men, the pattern for women was more dramatic. For instance, a woman with a college degree was nine times more likely to identify herself as non-heterosexual than a woman with only a high school diploma. The specific elements that create this marked difference are unclear, but the researchers don't believe it's simply due to higher reporting of non-heterosexuality by more educated individuals. They believe one explanation is the fact that with more acceptance, even encouragement, of homosexuality at universities, more university women embrace a non-heterosexual lifestyle. For an example of how that might develop, see Dennis Prager's article entitled, ';College Taught Her Not To Be a Heterosexual.';





Based on the findings of this American research study, environments that sanction and/or promote homosexuality induce more individuals to engage in homosexual behavior.





Conclusion:


All of the aforementioned research studies from four different countries, each utilizing large, countrywide samples, reveal that homosexual behavior is not genetically determined. Rather, the data find that human sexuality is malleable, and environmental experiences and influences can and do shape its expression. Moreover, these findings are supported by decades of anthropological and sociological evidence that reveal that rates of homosexual behavior fluctuate鈥攕ometimes greatly鈥攚ith changes in the social, cultural, and legal climate. The more an environment affirms or encourages same-sex sexuality鈥攚hether an urban center or a university campus鈥攖he more homosexuality there will be in that setting.





Social and cultural norms, as well as legal regulations, influence human behavior including sexual behavior. So not surprisingly, as the United States and other Western Countries have become increasingly pro-homosexual鈥攕ocially, politically, and legally鈥攖hey have experienced an upward trend in the number of individuals engaging in homosexual behavior. That trend will continue if we move beyond mere tolerance of homosexual behavior (which is appropriate) to formally honoring it by legalizing same-sex marriage.
The most ironic thing, is that some of the same people supporting Prop. 8 account for the 70% divorce rate that is soaring in America. If marriage is so sacred, then why is that number so high?





It's not taken as seriously and strictly as it used to be, so really what is any particular person, or society as a whole, ';losing'; by allowing homosexuals to marry?





I remember a stand-up comedian making another good point on it, that if someone wants to submit themselves to the soulless, degenerative torture that eternally binds them to another person, they should be allowed to, LOL ..





If it does not happen now, it will in time - there is no ';ban'; that can permanently write off things like this - I think it will constantly be raised again and again until it is passed.
I think this proposition was ridiculous in the first place, why should it matter if same sex couples want to get married? Does it hurt anybody? It's the morality police who forced this one, the same type of person who sits in church every Sunday and plays holier than thou and goes back to their same old self Monday - Saturday.
I'm with you on this, I can't believe so many people even care.





I personally don't think marriage has such a religious bond as it did at one time.





What's so strange is they have all the rights of any couple except marriage. If two people love each other who cares if there the same sex. I live in California and this has been going on to long. We have way more important issues, then same sex marriage. I have many friends that are gay and want this very badly. I feel for them and hope it goes through one day.





Take care


Cella
forty years ago we asked why black people were unable to have the same rights as us. the only diffrence is that this is with gay people. another answer is that they want to protect traditional marriage but proposition 8 is discrimanatory and is unconstitutional.
Because some people feel compelled to impose their moral values on others. Personally, I am against same-sax relationships in general. However, I recognize the fact that that's my opinion, not my life, and will let others live their life the way they want to. Nobody
i really wonder the same exact thing....why do they care? And for who is it ok to take basic rights away from.....Prop 8 is discriminating, and cruel. America has gotten past an era of racism, and discrimination of other races, lets not bring it back and vote NO on prop 8
All those people who appose same sex marriage and no one wants to give a good educated opinion on why it is wrong? Maybe because there is no good reason? Hmmm....

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